[...] It is the fault of newspapers and TV that give too much space,
since the majority of Italians while not professing,
not respecting any commandment, it is considered religious
and thinks that the Pope is a good grandpa.
Friday, November 17, 2006
Sorority Interest Letter Template
the ugly duckling it.discussioni.consumatori.tutela
[...] It is the fault of newspapers and TV that give too much space,
since the majority of Italians while not professing,
not respecting any commandment, it is considered religious
and thinks that the Pope is a good grandpa.
[...] It is the fault of newspapers and TV that give too much space,
since the majority of Italians while not professing,
not respecting any commandment, it is considered religious
and thinks that the Pope is a good grandpa.
Tuesday, November 14, 2006
Lab 5 Cellular Respiration Answer
Videomaker, it.discussioni.consumatori.tutela
Frankly I always find it very difficult to discuss calmly and
constructively on these issues.
Unfortunately ignorance (in the sense to ignore things) and the crudeness
dei discorsi fanno si che me ne stia alla larga.
[...]
Detto questo e valutando quindi solo gli interventi dei partecipanti
trovo che per me è impossibile che nel 2006 (quasi finito) con l'avvento
di internet e la possibilità di avere mille informazioni ancora :
a) C'é chi confonde italiani con cattolici
b) Cattolici con cristiani
c) Stranieri con mussulmani
d) Corano con l'invito all'omicidio
e) Bibbia con l'invito al "volemose bene siamo tutti fratelli"
f) Laici con mangiapreti
g) Contrari al crocifisso *nei luoghi pubblici* come brucia chiese 
Frankly I always find it very difficult to discuss calmly and
constructively on these issues.
Unfortunately ignorance (in the sense to ignore things) and the crudeness
dei discorsi fanno si che me ne stia alla larga.
[...]
Detto questo e valutando quindi solo gli interventi dei partecipanti
trovo che per me è impossibile che nel 2006 (quasi finito) con l'avvento
di internet e la possibilità di avere mille informazioni ancora :
a) C'é chi confonde italiani con cattolici
b) Cattolici con cristiani
c) Stranieri con mussulmani
d) Corano con l'invito all'omicidio
e) Bibbia con l'invito al "volemose bene siamo tutti fratelli"
f) Laici con mangiapreti
g) Contrari al crocifisso *nei luoghi pubblici* come brucia chiese
Monday, November 6, 2006
How Can I Transfer Dvd Hdd To Another Dvd Hdd
pope, pope it.cultura.ateismo
La trinità, non è un'esclusiva del cristianesimo, di religioni che avevano quale mito una trinità di dei ve n'erano a decine già prima del cristianesimo.
Il cristianesimo non è una religione "originale" , praticamente dalle altre religioni ha assorbito tutto, la più parte dal dio Mitra che all'epoca del presunto Gesù era la religione più diffusa nell'impero romano. Ancora oggi i segni evidenti di questa religione sono presenti nel cristianesimo, segni che vanno dal cappello del vescovo che guardacaso si chiama Mitra, all'abito talare dei preti fatto a tonaca di color nero, al rosso porpora dei cardinali e di alcuni paramenti carnevaleschi del papa e perfino alla Eucarestia o ad altri sacramenti quali battesimo e confessione.
Per quanto riguarda la trinità si deve prendere in considerazione il fatto che il cristianesimo è principalmente una derivazione dell'ebraismo da cui ha assorbito molti dei principali concetti. Va quindi esaminata anche questa circostanza.
E furono proprio gli ebrei che prima dei cristiani assorbirono elementi di altre religioni, a cominciare dal mito di Osiride/Iside/Horus, dal quale i cristiani hanno poi tratto non solo ilo mito della trinità ma addirittura il mito della madonna scopiazzandolo da quello di Iside.
Molte delle loro credenze, gli ebrei le avevano appreso durante la prigioni in Babilonia, a cominciare da quella di Gilgamesh, antico re sumero della città di Uruk, vissuto intorno al 2.600 a.C. La sua vicenda fu narrata in un poema accadico giunto fino a noi, un'opera importante della letteratura mesopotamica (12 canti), che presenta moltissime analogie con i racconti biblici; vi troviamo, ad esempio, la versione caldea del diluvio universale nonchè la profonda inquietudine umana di fronte alla vita unita all'irrefrenabile idea di immortalità.
In questo mito NISSIR è nome della montagna sulla quale si arenò l'arca di Utnapishtim.
Da chi sarà mai stato copiato il personaggio Noè ??
Ma i babilonesi avevano anche altri miti e fu proprio quello della loro trinità (babilonese-assira) formata da Anu, Bel ed Ea, uno degli elementi che influenzò quella assunta poi dai quegli Jews who left their religion to switch to Christianity.
There would still be written about the fact for example that the Jews regarded the Spirit (which later became the Holy Spirit in Christianity) female and we have some evidence in the apocryphal gospels, and the myth of the Virgin Mary was born probably just from
' absence of the sacred feminine (as they say in The Da Vinci Code) in the first centuries of Christianity.
Early in the history of the Chinese there is a trinity composed of three Augusti Fuxi, Nüwa and Shennong.
In Etruscan the trinity consists of the main Tinia, Uni and Menrva. It will come from the Roman goddess Minerva.
So runs the Indian Rig-Veda: Aditi is heaven, Aditi is the air, Aditi is the mother, father, son, Aditi is all gods and the five tribes, all that is born of Aditi: Aditi is everything what will be born!
I stop here, but not because I ran out of topics, you feel like there are many trinity in the religions of the world! 
La trinità, non è un'esclusiva del cristianesimo, di religioni che avevano quale mito una trinità di dei ve n'erano a decine già prima del cristianesimo.
Il cristianesimo non è una religione "originale" , praticamente dalle altre religioni ha assorbito tutto, la più parte dal dio Mitra che all'epoca del presunto Gesù era la religione più diffusa nell'impero romano. Ancora oggi i segni evidenti di questa religione sono presenti nel cristianesimo, segni che vanno dal cappello del vescovo che guardacaso si chiama Mitra, all'abito talare dei preti fatto a tonaca di color nero, al rosso porpora dei cardinali e di alcuni paramenti carnevaleschi del papa e perfino alla Eucarestia o ad altri sacramenti quali battesimo e confessione.
Per quanto riguarda la trinità si deve prendere in considerazione il fatto che il cristianesimo è principalmente una derivazione dell'ebraismo da cui ha assorbito molti dei principali concetti. Va quindi esaminata anche questa circostanza.
E furono proprio gli ebrei che prima dei cristiani assorbirono elementi di altre religioni, a cominciare dal mito di Osiride/Iside/Horus, dal quale i cristiani hanno poi tratto non solo ilo mito della trinità ma addirittura il mito della madonna scopiazzandolo da quello di Iside.
Molte delle loro credenze, gli ebrei le avevano appreso durante la prigioni in Babilonia, a cominciare da quella di Gilgamesh, antico re sumero della città di Uruk, vissuto intorno al 2.600 a.C. La sua vicenda fu narrata in un poema accadico giunto fino a noi, un'opera importante della letteratura mesopotamica (12 canti), che presenta moltissime analogie con i racconti biblici; vi troviamo, ad esempio, la versione caldea del diluvio universale nonchè la profonda inquietudine umana di fronte alla vita unita all'irrefrenabile idea di immortalità.
In questo mito NISSIR è nome della montagna sulla quale si arenò l'arca di Utnapishtim.
Da chi sarà mai stato copiato il personaggio Noè ??
Ma i babilonesi avevano anche altri miti e fu proprio quello della loro trinità (babilonese-assira) formata da Anu, Bel ed Ea, uno degli elementi che influenzò quella assunta poi dai quegli Jews who left their religion to switch to Christianity.
There would still be written about the fact for example that the Jews regarded the Spirit (which later became the Holy Spirit in Christianity) female and we have some evidence in the apocryphal gospels, and the myth of the Virgin Mary was born probably just from
' absence of the sacred feminine (as they say in The Da Vinci Code) in the first centuries of Christianity.
Early in the history of the Chinese there is a trinity composed of three Augusti Fuxi, Nüwa and Shennong.
In Etruscan the trinity consists of the main Tinia, Uni and Menrva. It will come from the Roman goddess Minerva.
So runs the Indian Rig-Veda: Aditi is heaven, Aditi is the air, Aditi is the mother, father, son, Aditi is all gods and the five tribes, all that is born of Aditi: Aditi is everything what will be born!
I stop here, but not because I ran out of topics, you feel like there are many trinity in the religions of the world!
Sunday, August 27, 2006
Colon Hydrotherapist And Salary
, it.cultura.ateismo
[...] the Vatican today depends on its 2000 years of atrocities and crimes against humanity - all of their capital equipment to churches and works of art, land, buildings and so on, things that earn billions of euro every day, have cost thousands of lives - every time I in a church I wonder how many slaves were killed for its implementation, how many people were defrauded, and excommunicated those goods were confiscated in order to have enough money to pay so much glitz. 
[...] the Vatican today depends on its 2000 years of atrocities and crimes against humanity - all of their capital equipment to churches and works of art, land, buildings and so on, things that earn billions of euro every day, have cost thousands of lives - every time I in a church I wonder how many slaves were killed for its implementation, how many people were defrauded, and excommunicated those goods were confiscated in order to have enough money to pay so much glitz.
Wednesday, June 21, 2006
Itunes Your System Has Not Been Modified
On happiness', fragments from USENET
Think about what Catholicism affects our lives more 'to what we want, dig deep into your look, if you think there is a God who works in the world, or if it is only when we are tales told by children, who become a source of anxiety as adults (if you get these ideas seem new, they have already 'spoken in many, even some Freud, some years ago) and how the social pressures artificially build your idea of \u200b\u200bhappiness', the point that the more 'will depart da questa idea di felicita' tanto piu' senti di dover essere infelice.
Da bambini ci danno giocattoli. Ci stancano, li rompiamo e ne vogliamo sempre di nuovi.
Crescendo dobbiamo imparare che la felicità non è nei giocattoli. La felicità deve sgorgare da dentro di noi, dall'accettazione del mondo, della realtà e soprattutto degli altri. La felicità non sta nell'inseguire le torme di pensieri che affollano la nostra testa.
Se non impariamo, continuiamo ad inseguire illusioni attraverso giocattoli. Chiamali automobili, vacanze di grido, abiti firmati e anche persone che diventano il mezzo del nostro benessere e le sentiamo nostre,
invece di essere il nostro fine.
Così possiamo accusarle di non never do enough of being the cause of our troubles, not to love one another as they should, given how the "love" us.
I'm not saying it's easy to get there. Rationally, if you want it, it's pretty easy to understand. But we must be able to accept it emotionally and this is really difficult.
The awareness that the pain we feel is wrong is a start.
To conclude with a quote: "[...]
what we call happiness is suddenly accumulated satisfaction of needs and so 'can only exist as an episodic phenomenon. " (S. Freud) 
Think about what Catholicism affects our lives more 'to what we want, dig deep into your look, if you think there is a God who works in the world, or if it is only when we are tales told by children, who become a source of anxiety as adults (if you get these ideas seem new, they have already 'spoken in many, even some Freud, some years ago) and how the social pressures artificially build your idea of \u200b\u200bhappiness', the point that the more 'will depart da questa idea di felicita' tanto piu' senti di dover essere infelice.
Da bambini ci danno giocattoli. Ci stancano, li rompiamo e ne vogliamo sempre di nuovi.
Crescendo dobbiamo imparare che la felicità non è nei giocattoli. La felicità deve sgorgare da dentro di noi, dall'accettazione del mondo, della realtà e soprattutto degli altri. La felicità non sta nell'inseguire le torme di pensieri che affollano la nostra testa.
Se non impariamo, continuiamo ad inseguire illusioni attraverso giocattoli. Chiamali automobili, vacanze di grido, abiti firmati e anche persone che diventano il mezzo del nostro benessere e le sentiamo nostre,
invece di essere il nostro fine.
Così possiamo accusarle di non never do enough of being the cause of our troubles, not to love one another as they should, given how the "love" us.
I'm not saying it's easy to get there. Rationally, if you want it, it's pretty easy to understand. But we must be able to accept it emotionally and this is really difficult.
The awareness that the pain we feel is wrong is a start.
To conclude with a quote: "[...]
what we call happiness is suddenly accumulated satisfaction of needs and so 'can only exist as an episodic phenomenon. " (S. Freud)
Thursday, June 8, 2006
What Will Cocoa Powder Do To Chili
Conditioner by it.discussioni.energie-alternative
In any case, my opinion is that the packaging, cases less than health, is bad because the only effect in the medium term is a general increase in temperatures.
very short-term budget
In your house is fresher, it is hotter in your neighborhood, it is warmer where there is the power plant. You've spent a bit 'of your income for your comfort. You have less money to invest in alternative sources.
medium-term budgetary
Fa hottest year before and so on. Your neighbor will install the air conditioner and it will be hot. The only requirement by the work of moving the heat (from the inside out but added that the engine) are forced to operate at temperatures higher and higher and yields lower and lower. At this rate we will have to mount air conditioner is always the biggest that will only increase the temperature.
goes without saying that this is not the way unless, to return to topic, the energy used to operate the air conditioner is not renewable. Here then the air conditioner is cleared through customs from wind, biomass, hydroelectric, solar, etc. .. but do not share the short term nature of our society.
reasoning as well as extremist also an approximation, namely that all the energy consumption is of fossil origin, which is not true because, fortunately, 15% circa è idroelettrico. 
In any case, my opinion is that the packaging, cases less than health, is bad because the only effect in the medium term is a general increase in temperatures.
very short-term budget
In your house is fresher, it is hotter in your neighborhood, it is warmer where there is the power plant. You've spent a bit 'of your income for your comfort. You have less money to invest in alternative sources.
medium-term budgetary
Fa hottest year before and so on. Your neighbor will install the air conditioner and it will be hot. The only requirement by the work of moving the heat (from the inside out but added that the engine) are forced to operate at temperatures higher and higher and yields lower and lower. At this rate we will have to mount air conditioner is always the biggest that will only increase the temperature.
goes without saying that this is not the way unless, to return to topic, the energy used to operate the air conditioner is not renewable. Here then the air conditioner is cleared through customs from wind, biomass, hydroelectric, solar, etc. .. but do not share the short term nature of our society.
reasoning as well as extremist also an approximation, namely that all the energy consumption is of fossil origin, which is not true because, fortunately, 15% circa è idroelettrico.
Saturday, June 3, 2006
Bmw Bike Birthday Cake
What you might not know about Chernobyl, it.discussioni.energie-alternative
The area around Chernobyl is now the most radioactive of the atmosphere at aircraft that are in any area of \u200b\u200bItaly, the huge problem is any dust, dust sisono diffuze for the explosion of the reactor vessel, unprotected spheroid by a containment of suitable strength. 
- Chernobyl utilizzava reattori a grafite, ben più pericolosi di quelli utilizzati da sempre in tutto l'occidente;
- erano reattori di grandi dimensioni per i quali era impossibile creare strutture di contenimento solide come quelle utilizzate nei reattori occidentali molto più piccoli;
- non si tratto' di un incidente durante il funzionamento ma di un esperimento fatto dai tecnici che non erano informati dei limiti del reattore, ai tempi quei reattori erano "pubblicamente" conosciuti come perfetti secondo la normale propaganda e metodologia russa;
- vennero rimosse tutte le barre di contenimento quando anche l'ultimo ingegnere Nuclear graduate knows that 10 days ago in reactors of that kind should never fall below 1 / 3;
- the few safety systems were deliberately blocked the experiment.
The area around Chernobyl is now the most radioactive of the atmosphere at aircraft that are in any area of \u200b\u200bItaly, the huge problem is any dust, dust sisono diffuze for the explosion of the reactor vessel, unprotected spheroid by a containment of suitable strength.
Monday, May 22, 2006
Teaching Solutions Scam 2010
it.comp.os. debates
Apart from that it must be said that 100% of utonti only have problems with Windows. The utonto Linux does not exist, and if there are lapses in half a day of incapacity survival.
Can you explain how to write an email 32 times, saving a Word document, update the antivirus, or generally keep your PC in shape. We also see note on a sheet, so that the next day you find them again on the phone telling you that's not part of the PC. Who wants to know understand and can even learn something, who does not understand is utonto. The
utonto not know how to use a PC in general, think of him to use a shell is on the edge of reality, even if it had an interface from kindergarten.
[...] And you know why?
do not understand why one stone, note the wrong things * *. They try to memorize "button to click" and not the * CONCEPT *, so just change anything (ie: the position of the toolbar), go
crisis.
not enter the "logic" of what they are doing, do not want to get in and there will never, by choice. Stamp their feet, like children, for mental laziness.
not find is a * duty * of information going out to these subjects. Do not use a PC is their problem, thus making them unable to work ...
do not want an OS * * * ME * that stretches like a fool because "someone did not want to understand what he is doing." 
Apart from that it must be said that 100% of utonti only have problems with Windows. The utonto Linux does not exist, and if there are lapses in half a day of incapacity survival.
Can you explain how to write an email 32 times, saving a Word document, update the antivirus, or generally keep your PC in shape. We also see note on a sheet, so that the next day you find them again on the phone telling you that's not part of the PC. Who wants to know understand and can even learn something, who does not understand is utonto. The
utonto not know how to use a PC in general, think of him to use a shell is on the edge of reality, even if it had an interface from kindergarten.
[...] And you know why?
do not understand why one stone, note the wrong things * *. They try to memorize "button to click" and not the * CONCEPT *, so just change anything (ie: the position of the toolbar), go
crisis.
not enter the "logic" of what they are doing, do not want to get in and there will never, by choice. Stamp their feet, like children, for mental laziness.
not find is a * duty * of information going out to these subjects. Do not use a PC is their problem, thus making them unable to work ...
do not want an OS * * * ME * that stretches like a fool because "someone did not want to understand what he is doing."
Gilera Dna Forhandler
Catholics
The theory that a person who wants to go to church and is' consistent (so-called practicing Catholic) and agree 100% with what the Pope says (and his subordinates):
and other ideas that, in my humble opinion, you can define "medieval."
for charity, 'everyone has the right to believe in these things, but my opinion and' that this' is precisely the definition of "bigotry."
Pero 'ones make me laugh (a lot, I would say the majority) who call themselves "non-practicing Catholics," and / or who are "autoconcedono" handouts from the dictates of the Church: How can you call yourself a Catholic? How can 'be Catholic to 40%? Or even 90%?
If you do not agree with the statement by the Catholic Church as a whole , you can not call yourself a Catholic simply believe in a god (whatever that 'might mean).
If you subscribe to a chess club, you can not decide to move the tower diagonally. 
The theory that a person who wants to go to church and is' consistent (so-called practicing Catholic) and agree 100% with what the Pope says (and his subordinates):
- anything of contraception "unnatural" (and already 'there ought to be smiling about the "unnatural" )
- no chance 'of divorce under any circumstances;
- infants are baptized into the more' as soon as possible (even if Jesus ', if any, and' age was baptized in 'adult), and the woman
- ' an inferior being (undeniable fact can not 'even come close to the priesthood, let alone become Pope);
- homosexuality' is a disease (or defect);
- the Pope and 'infallible (relatively the doctrine);
- an embryo and a child are exactly the same thing;
- no premarital sex;
and other ideas that, in my humble opinion, you can define "medieval."
for charity, 'everyone has the right to believe in these things, but my opinion and' that this' is precisely the definition of "bigotry."
Pero 'ones make me laugh (a lot, I would say the majority) who call themselves "non-practicing Catholics," and / or who are "autoconcedono" handouts from the dictates of the Church: How can you call yourself a Catholic? How can 'be Catholic to 40%? Or even 90%?
If you do not agree with the statement by the Catholic Church as a whole , you can not call yourself a Catholic simply believe in a god (whatever that 'might mean).
If you subscribe to a chess club, you can not decide to move the tower diagonally.
Sunday, May 21, 2006
Pain Left Side Back Of Waiste
pope - it.cultura.ateismo
The definition of a-theory is as wrong can be to determine which is the thought of a person in relation to the gods.
A-theory means "godless" and is part of a definition that is given by believers to non-believer, in practice one way, or rather a status-quo invented by the church.
To classify such an a-theoretical, that is, without a god, you must first demonstrate the existence of a god, which is precisely impossible.
Not-so it makes sense to define a theory that does not believe, one who does not believe is just "one" because it is not mandatory nor that there is a god or that we should be with-or without-god or god.
Conversely, a believer can be defined as "a believer"
In fact I do not feel a-theoretical, that is "godless" because for me there is no God, how can I be without something that does not exist ? 
The definition of a-theory is as wrong can be to determine which is the thought of a person in relation to the gods.
A-theory means "godless" and is part of a definition that is given by believers to non-believer, in practice one way, or rather a status-quo invented by the church.
To classify such an a-theoretical, that is, without a god, you must first demonstrate the existence of a god, which is precisely impossible.
Not-so it makes sense to define a theory that does not believe, one who does not believe is just "one" because it is not mandatory nor that there is a god or that we should be with-or without-god or god.
Conversely, a believer can be defined as "a believer"
In fact I do not feel a-theoretical, that is "godless" because for me there is no God, how can I be without something that does not exist ?
Saturday, February 25, 2006
How To Create A Airpcap Usb Adapter
Quotes Taken from famous
"Catholics are affiliated to them because so many newborn lives." (Unknown)
"When I create the man 'God was still ignorant. This' explains everything." (B. Dartagnan)
"Quanto piu' l'uomo e' religioso, tanto piu' crede; quanto piu' crede, tanto meno sa; quanto meno sa, tanto piu' e' ignorante; quanto piu' e' ignorante, tanto piu' e' governabile." (John Most)
"Incurabilmente religioso, questo e' il modo migliore di descrivere la condizione mentale di cosi' tanta gente." (Thomas Edison)
"Se la Bibbia prova l'esistenza di Dio, allora i fumetti provano l'esistenza di Nembo Kid." (Ignoto)
"Io sono circondato da preti che ripetono incessantemente che il loro regno non e' in questo mondo, eppure allungano le mani su tutto quello che possono prendere." (Napoleone)
Uno spartano domando' a un sacerdote che voleva confessarlo: "A chi devo confessare i miei peccati, a Dio o agli uomini?". "A Dio" rispose il prete. "Allora, ritirati, uomo". (Plutarco, Detti dei Lacedemoni)
"Non combattere mai con la religione, ne' con le cose che pare dependino da Dio; perche' questo obietto ha troppa forza nella mente degli sciocchi." (Francesco Guicciardini)
"La natura, voi dite, e' del tutto inesplicabile senza un Dio. In altri termini, per spiegare cio' che capite ben poco, avete bisogno di una causa che non capite affatto." (Paul Thiry d'Holbach)
"Per i cristiani trovarsi di fronte a una cosa incredibile e' una bella occasione per credere." (Michel de Montaigne)
"Il nostro mondo diverra' un giorno tanto raffinato che will be 'ridiculous to believe in God today as' ridiculous to believe in ghosts. "(Georg Christoph Lichtenberg)
" It 's very surprising that the wealth of churchmen have originated from the principles of poverty.' "(Charles de Montesquieu)
"Faith and 'a cramp, paralysis, atrophy of the mind in certain positions." (Ezra Pound)
"It' s funny to hear the Christian today enhance the sweetness and reasonableness of his religion, ignoring that this sweetness, and this reasonableness are due to the teaching of men, once persecuted by the Christians. "(Bertrand Russell)
" If someone goes so far as to accept uncritically all the absurdities' that religious doctrines are giving and even to ignore the mutual contradictions, its intellectual weakness should not be surprised beyond measure. "(Sigmund Freud)
" Crassus laziness that for which God called everything 'that you can not explain. God would be the sum of our ignorance? "(Ugo Ojetti)
" If a philosopher and 'a blind man in a dark room, looking for a black cat that does not exist', a theologian and 'the man who unable to find that cat. "(Bertrand Russell)
" No tyrant known about the history and 'never been responsible for a single cent of the crimes, massacres, and many atrocities' attributed to the God of the Bible. "(Steve Allen)
'There is people who inherit the faith, as it inherits the land, the house, noble titles, money, a library and the castle. Faith to property, inheritance. "(Ennio Flaiano)
" The Bible as we know it contains elements that are scientifically wrong, or even morally repugnant. No prospect beyond the lines can 'convince that those passages are the product of Divine Wisdom. "(Bernard J. Banberger)
' The Truth 'does not require faith. Scientists do not join hands every Sunday chanting - Yes, 'gravity' and 'true! I'll have 'faith! I will be 'strong! I believe in my heart that what goes up, up, up must come down ', down', down ', Amen! - If they did, we might think that they are little unsure of the truth 'of gravity. "(Dan Barker)
"Se ti hanno insegnato che gli elfi provocano la pioggia, ogni volta che piovera' tu vedrai la prova dell'esistenza degli elfi." (Ariex)
"Non voglio e non possono figurarmi un individuo che sopravviva alla sua morte corporale: quante anime deboli, per paura e per egoismo ridicolo, si nutrono di simili idee!" (Albert Einstein)
"[...] ed io ho sempre sentito dire che la religione romana e' perduta, se gli uomini si mettono a pensare." (Voltaire)
"La chiesa, un luogo dove un popolo imbecille si reca, senza riflettere, a salutare un pezzo di pane." (Manon P. Roland)
"Dio e' quell'essere dotato di tutte le qualita' e le virtu', meno quella di esistere." (Articioc)
"La Religion, daughter of Hope and Fear, explaining Ignorance the Unknowable. "(A. Bierce)
" One to whom a shrine was shown pictures on voting by people as a shipwreck survivor, who was pressing him with questions if you do not recognize the power of the gods, asked in turn: - Where 'the portrait of those who despite having vowed, have died anyway? - "(Bacon)
" The less you believe in God, most 'of course' cause we believe others. "(J. Rostand)
" Religion and 'a lie' cause promises a paradise which does not exist. A fraud because 'constructs a complicated system of anti-values, symmetrically who deny the true values \u200b\u200bof life. A deception, then, 'cause lies in the the guise of goodness' and an inner call to altruism cruelty 'and the domain. "(S. Moravia)
" It' s been said, and very well, that if a god did the triangles, the three sides would . (Charles-Louis de Secondat)
"God and 'the pain stems from the fear of death." (Fyodor Dostoevsky)
"God was not a solution and will never find an equally satisfactory." (Emil Michel Cioran)
"The Legend of Christianity can 'still continue to vegetate only in the faculties' theological, and even among those who want - Keep religion to the people - even at the cost of science." (Friedrich Engels)
"I call Christianity the one great damn, the only enorme perversione interiore: il solo grande istinto di rivincita per il quale nessun mezzo e' troppo velenoso, clandestino, sotterraneo e meschino. Lo chiamo macchia immortale dell'umanita'." (F. Nietzsche)
"Quando uno comincia a parlare di Dio, io non so di cosa parli, infatti le religioni, tutte, sono prodotti artificiali." (Arthur Schopenhauer)
"Solo quando il mondo sara' diventato abbastanza onesto da non impartire lezioni di religione ai ragazzi prima del quindicesimo anno di eta', ci si potra' aspettare qualche cosa da lui." (A. Schopenhauer)
"Con riti solenni e altre cerimonie, come si addice a perfetti imbonitori, i chierici riescono non solo a far presa sul pubblico, ma anche ad accreditarsi come unici depositari della verita'." (Anacleto Verrecchia)
"La nevrosi ossessiva si puo' considerare un equivalente patologico del rituale religioso [...] percio' forse la nevrosi si puo' trattare come una religione privata, e la religione come una nevrosi ossessiva universale." (Sigmund Freud)
"E' destino dei credenti vivere assurdamente, frustrati dagli imperativi categorici della loro piatta immaginazione e morire in modo insano, cercando di afferrare mani che non ci sono." (Henry Louis Mencken)
"[...] chiunque conviene che l'ipotesi ateistica e' insostenibile, perche' concorda con l'idea impossibile dell'autoesistenza, deve necessariamente ammettere che l'ipotesi teistica e' insostenibile, perche' contiene the same idea as impossible. "(Herbert Spencer)
" It 's not so much the harshness of the heart, not the evil intentions of men thinking to lead to atheism, but rather a scrupulous honesty' and intellectual rigor. "(Steve Allen )
"You can quote one hundred references to show that the biblical God and 'a bloodthirsty tyrant, but they discover you two or three verses - God' s love! - And they declare that you take things out of context "(Dan Barker)
" I realized that a psychological need for faith comes very quickly during childhood indoctrination, and that this had all the characteristics addiction. "(Neal Cary)
" The student of history attento scoprira' che il Cristianesimo ha fatto poco per far avanzare la civilta', ma ha fatto moltissimo per ritardarla." (Matilda Joslyn Gage)
"[...] i piccoli bambini che hanno iniziato a vivere nel grembo delle loro madri e sono morti, o che, essendo appena nati sono morti senza il santo sacramento del battesimo, devono essere puniti con l'eterna tortura del fuoco immortale." (affermazioni clamorose da "Hell, A Christian Doctrine")
"Il credente e' felice; il dubbioso e' intelligente." (proverbio ungherese)
"Dovremmo essere agnostici riguardo quelle cose per cui non c'e' nessuna prova. Non dovremmo affidarci alle fedi semplicemente perche' gratificano i nostri desideri di vita dopo la morte, immortalita', paradiso, inferno, etc." (Sir Julian Huxley)
"[...] I mass media hanno stravolto il ruolo della donna, la sua sessualita' non e' piu' passiva come ha voluto il Signore, ma attiva, stravolgendo la natura e il senso degli uomini." (da un post su it.cultura.cattolica, anno 2005)
"L'uomo ha inventato dio soltanto per non uccidersi." (Albert Camus)
"Dio e' una risposta grossolana, un'indelicatezza verso noi pensatori." (F. Nietzsche)
"Vi scongiuro, fratelli miei, rimanete fedeli alla Terra, e non prestate fede a coloro che vi parlano di speranze ultraterrene! Si tratta di avvelenatori, che lo sappiano o meno." (F. Nietzsche)
"La presunzione di alcuni di aspirare ad una vita eterna, should already 'enough to make them unworthy of it, and of course', however, that this is enough to make them unworthy of life. "(John Soriano)
" The Popes have made too many imbecility 'to believe it infallible. "(Napoleon Bonaparte)
" Whenever I hear Christians talk about morality, I feel almost stomach turn. "(Karlheinz Deschner)
" Religion and 'an illusion and it derives its strength from the fact that matches our instinctual desires. "(Sigmund Freud)
"God and 'the only being that, to reign, does not even need to exist." (Charles Baudelaire)
"If I have to be punished for subordinate faith to reason, then I am ready." (Voltaire)
"We must have sum hurry to baptize children, 'cause they in their tender age' are exposed to many dangers of death, and can not be saved without baptism. "(blatant statements from the Catechism of St Pius X)
" There exists in the world attitude of most 'childish and more' foolish of those who delude themselves have explained the order of the universe only by assuming the existence of a creator whose wisdom and whose order is not able to explain in any way. "(Unknown)
" One last favor, and if 'possible: when I die', spare me the funeral at church and the priest's speech, I could not defend myself ... "(John Soriano)
" Many people do not talk about God, nor the curse, if so people did not everything to give him one. "(Jean Meslier)
Faith and 'what to believe' that you know is not 'so'." (Mark Twain)
"At the same time God wants to abolish evil, and can not ', or he can 'but do not want to do it, or he can not', and do not want to do it, If you like, but can not, 'and then' helpless. If you can, 'but does not want to do it, and' evil. But if God can 'and wants to eliminate evil, then why' there is still evil in the world? "(Epicurus)
" The religious beliefs of people of every country are ancient and enduring relics of ignorance, cruelty ' , and the terrors of the ferocity of their ancestors. "(Paul Thiry d'Holbach)
" You do not become atheists to adopt new beliefs, but per diventare liberi." (Mathieu Delarue)
"Dio: una spiegazione che risparmia una spiegazione." (Leonard L. Levinson)
"Non c'e' in fondo che una definizione valida: l'ateo e' un credente divenuto adulto." (Thomas Cleaners jr.)
"La Chiesa dice che la Terra e' piatta, ma io so che e' rotonda, perche' ne ho visto l'ombra sulla Luna, ed ho piu' fiducia in un'ombra che nella Chiesa." (Ferdinando Magellano)
"Iscriveresti tuo figlio ad un'organizzazione che non ti piace, in un'eta' in cui ancora non sai se a lui interessa o no? E allora perche' lo hai battezzato?" (Ignoto)
"Il Papa: uomo a capo di una monarchia assoluta distintasi nei secoli per la sua barbarie." (Ignoto)
"[...] chiunque accettera' di consultare il buon senso sulle credenze religiose [...] si accorgera' facilmente che tali credenze non hanno alcun solido fondamento; che ogni religione e' un castello in aria; che la teologia non e' che l'ignoranza delle cause naturali ridotta a sistema [...]" (Paul Thiry d'Holbach, il buon senso)
"Se la religione fosse chiara, avrebbe molto meno attrattiva per gli ignoranti. Essi hanno bisogno di oscurita', di misteri, di terrori, di favole, di prodigi, di cose incredibili che li facciano sempre lavorare di fantasia." (Paul Thiry d'Holbach)
"I teologi trattano gli uomini come fanciulli, che non fanno mai obiezioni sulla veridicita' dei racconti che ascoltano." (Paul Thiry d'Holbach)
"It would be difficult to train a man of forty years by providing the concepts that are inconsistent on these deities ', and equally difficult to dispel those notions as the head of a man who is imbued with the most' early childhood. " (Paul Thiry d'Holbach)
"[...] because atheists need the evidence and protection of those on whom would be likely to atheism. If there are atheists, what 'proof only that the evidence of God is not worth anything. " (Felix Le Dantec)
"If ignorance of nature gave birth to the gods, his knowledge will destroy them '." (Paul Thiry d'Holbach)
"One thing I have always been deeply impressed: that believers of all time have sought and provided evidence of the existence of God, of course, all these tests are conclusive for those who use them. Unfortunately these are only for them, prove that they believe in God, and everything and 'them'. "(Felix Le Dantec)
" The majority of Italians, while not professing and not respecting any commandment, it is believed that the religious and thinks Pope is a good little man. "(Unknown)
" What more 'I was indignant of the Bible and' the audacity in stating that use things more 'absurd in the belief that others are fools. "(Luigi Cascioli)
"[...] the three sons of Noah, 'hailed the old parent, they left each with its own female taking directions different, as did the animals to repopulate the earth. Give yourself one each sector, based on pairs practicing incest and crap like that inevitable [...]" (Luigi Cascioli)
"One of the really negative effects of religion and 'that is taught to consider a virtue' the Pasha's own ignorance. "(Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion)
" God does not exist, people have no choice but to take hold of their destiny through the social and political conditions that surround them. "(JPSartre)
" Without religion good men Would still do good things and bad men Would still do bad things. For good men to do really bad things Requires religion. "(Steven Weinberg)
" If I fight le religioni non e' perche' esse sostengono l'idea di un Dio inesistente, ma perche' esse fondano su questa chimera una morale basata sulla stagnazione e sul regresso." (Luigi Cascioli)
"Se la famiglia e' cosi' importante, cosi' nobile, perche' i preti non si sposano? E se sono cosi' competenti in materia come avranno fatto a fare esperienza?"
Dedicato a tutti quelli che continuano a chiamare il papa "santo padre": - E non chiamate nessuno "padre" sulla terra, perché uno solo è il Padre vostro, quello del cielo. - (Marco 23,9)
"Catholics are affiliated to them because so many newborn lives." (Unknown)
"When I create the man 'God was still ignorant. This' explains everything." (B. Dartagnan)
"Quanto piu' l'uomo e' religioso, tanto piu' crede; quanto piu' crede, tanto meno sa; quanto meno sa, tanto piu' e' ignorante; quanto piu' e' ignorante, tanto piu' e' governabile." (John Most)
"Incurabilmente religioso, questo e' il modo migliore di descrivere la condizione mentale di cosi' tanta gente." (Thomas Edison)
"Se la Bibbia prova l'esistenza di Dio, allora i fumetti provano l'esistenza di Nembo Kid." (Ignoto)
"Io sono circondato da preti che ripetono incessantemente che il loro regno non e' in questo mondo, eppure allungano le mani su tutto quello che possono prendere." (Napoleone)
Uno spartano domando' a un sacerdote che voleva confessarlo: "A chi devo confessare i miei peccati, a Dio o agli uomini?". "A Dio" rispose il prete. "Allora, ritirati, uomo". (Plutarco, Detti dei Lacedemoni)
"Non combattere mai con la religione, ne' con le cose che pare dependino da Dio; perche' questo obietto ha troppa forza nella mente degli sciocchi." (Francesco Guicciardini)
"La natura, voi dite, e' del tutto inesplicabile senza un Dio. In altri termini, per spiegare cio' che capite ben poco, avete bisogno di una causa che non capite affatto." (Paul Thiry d'Holbach)
"Per i cristiani trovarsi di fronte a una cosa incredibile e' una bella occasione per credere." (Michel de Montaigne)
"Il nostro mondo diverra' un giorno tanto raffinato che will be 'ridiculous to believe in God today as' ridiculous to believe in ghosts. "(Georg Christoph Lichtenberg)
" It 's very surprising that the wealth of churchmen have originated from the principles of poverty.' "(Charles de Montesquieu)
"Faith and 'a cramp, paralysis, atrophy of the mind in certain positions." (Ezra Pound)
"It' s funny to hear the Christian today enhance the sweetness and reasonableness of his religion, ignoring that this sweetness, and this reasonableness are due to the teaching of men, once persecuted by the Christians. "(Bertrand Russell)
" If someone goes so far as to accept uncritically all the absurdities' that religious doctrines are giving and even to ignore the mutual contradictions, its intellectual weakness should not be surprised beyond measure. "(Sigmund Freud)
" Crassus laziness that for which God called everything 'that you can not explain. God would be the sum of our ignorance? "(Ugo Ojetti)
" If a philosopher and 'a blind man in a dark room, looking for a black cat that does not exist', a theologian and 'the man who unable to find that cat. "(Bertrand Russell)
" No tyrant known about the history and 'never been responsible for a single cent of the crimes, massacres, and many atrocities' attributed to the God of the Bible. "(Steve Allen)
'There is people who inherit the faith, as it inherits the land, the house, noble titles, money, a library and the castle. Faith to property, inheritance. "(Ennio Flaiano)
" The Bible as we know it contains elements that are scientifically wrong, or even morally repugnant. No prospect beyond the lines can 'convince that those passages are the product of Divine Wisdom. "(Bernard J. Banberger)
' The Truth 'does not require faith. Scientists do not join hands every Sunday chanting - Yes, 'gravity' and 'true! I'll have 'faith! I will be 'strong! I believe in my heart that what goes up, up, up must come down ', down', down ', Amen! - If they did, we might think that they are little unsure of the truth 'of gravity. "(Dan Barker)
"Se ti hanno insegnato che gli elfi provocano la pioggia, ogni volta che piovera' tu vedrai la prova dell'esistenza degli elfi." (Ariex)
"Non voglio e non possono figurarmi un individuo che sopravviva alla sua morte corporale: quante anime deboli, per paura e per egoismo ridicolo, si nutrono di simili idee!" (Albert Einstein)
"[...] ed io ho sempre sentito dire che la religione romana e' perduta, se gli uomini si mettono a pensare." (Voltaire)
"La chiesa, un luogo dove un popolo imbecille si reca, senza riflettere, a salutare un pezzo di pane." (Manon P. Roland)
"Dio e' quell'essere dotato di tutte le qualita' e le virtu', meno quella di esistere." (Articioc)
"La Religion, daughter of Hope and Fear, explaining Ignorance the Unknowable. "(A. Bierce)
" One to whom a shrine was shown pictures on voting by people as a shipwreck survivor, who was pressing him with questions if you do not recognize the power of the gods, asked in turn: - Where 'the portrait of those who despite having vowed, have died anyway? - "(Bacon)
" The less you believe in God, most 'of course' cause we believe others. "(J. Rostand)
" Religion and 'a lie' cause promises a paradise which does not exist. A fraud because 'constructs a complicated system of anti-values, symmetrically who deny the true values \u200b\u200bof life. A deception, then, 'cause lies in the the guise of goodness' and an inner call to altruism cruelty 'and the domain. "(S. Moravia)
" It' s been said, and very well, that if a god did the triangles, the three sides would . (Charles-Louis de Secondat)
"God and 'the pain stems from the fear of death." (Fyodor Dostoevsky)
"God was not a solution and will never find an equally satisfactory." (Emil Michel Cioran)
"The Legend of Christianity can 'still continue to vegetate only in the faculties' theological, and even among those who want
"I call Christianity the one great damn, the only enorme perversione interiore: il solo grande istinto di rivincita per il quale nessun mezzo e' troppo velenoso, clandestino, sotterraneo e meschino. Lo chiamo macchia immortale dell'umanita'." (F. Nietzsche)
"Quando uno comincia a parlare di Dio, io non so di cosa parli, infatti le religioni, tutte, sono prodotti artificiali." (Arthur Schopenhauer)
"Solo quando il mondo sara' diventato abbastanza onesto da non impartire lezioni di religione ai ragazzi prima del quindicesimo anno di eta', ci si potra' aspettare qualche cosa da lui." (A. Schopenhauer)
"Con riti solenni e altre cerimonie, come si addice a perfetti imbonitori, i chierici riescono non solo a far presa sul pubblico, ma anche ad accreditarsi come unici depositari della verita'." (Anacleto Verrecchia)
"La nevrosi ossessiva si puo' considerare un equivalente patologico del rituale religioso [...] percio' forse la nevrosi si puo' trattare come una religione privata, e la religione come una nevrosi ossessiva universale." (Sigmund Freud)
"E' destino dei credenti vivere assurdamente, frustrati dagli imperativi categorici della loro piatta immaginazione e morire in modo insano, cercando di afferrare mani che non ci sono." (Henry Louis Mencken)
"[...] chiunque conviene che l'ipotesi ateistica e' insostenibile, perche' concorda con l'idea impossibile dell'autoesistenza, deve necessariamente ammettere che l'ipotesi teistica e' insostenibile, perche' contiene the same idea as impossible. "(Herbert Spencer)
" It 's not so much the harshness of the heart, not the evil intentions of men thinking to lead to atheism, but rather a scrupulous honesty' and intellectual rigor. "(Steve Allen )
"You can quote one hundred references to show that the biblical God and 'a bloodthirsty tyrant, but they discover you two or three verses
" I realized that a psychological need for faith comes very quickly during childhood indoctrination, and that this had all the characteristics addiction. "(Neal Cary)
" The student of history attento scoprira' che il Cristianesimo ha fatto poco per far avanzare la civilta', ma ha fatto moltissimo per ritardarla." (Matilda Joslyn Gage)
"[...] i piccoli bambini che hanno iniziato a vivere nel grembo delle loro madri e sono morti, o che, essendo appena nati sono morti senza il santo sacramento del battesimo, devono essere puniti con l'eterna tortura del fuoco immortale." (affermazioni clamorose da "Hell, A Christian Doctrine")
"Il credente e' felice; il dubbioso e' intelligente." (proverbio ungherese)
"Dovremmo essere agnostici riguardo quelle cose per cui non c'e' nessuna prova. Non dovremmo affidarci alle fedi semplicemente perche' gratificano i nostri desideri di vita dopo la morte, immortalita', paradiso, inferno, etc." (Sir Julian Huxley)
"[...] I mass media hanno stravolto il ruolo della donna, la sua sessualita' non e' piu' passiva come ha voluto il Signore, ma attiva, stravolgendo la natura e il senso degli uomini." (da un post su it.cultura.cattolica, anno 2005)
"L'uomo ha inventato dio soltanto per non uccidersi." (Albert Camus)
"Dio e' una risposta grossolana, un'indelicatezza verso noi pensatori." (F. Nietzsche)
"Vi scongiuro, fratelli miei, rimanete fedeli alla Terra, e non prestate fede a coloro che vi parlano di speranze ultraterrene! Si tratta di avvelenatori, che lo sappiano o meno." (F. Nietzsche)
"La presunzione di alcuni di aspirare ad una vita eterna, should already 'enough to make them unworthy of it, and of course', however, that this is enough to make them unworthy of life. "(John Soriano)
" The Popes have made too many imbecility 'to believe it infallible. "(Napoleon Bonaparte)
" Whenever I hear Christians talk about morality, I feel almost stomach turn. "(Karlheinz Deschner)
" Religion and 'an illusion and it derives its strength from the fact that matches our instinctual desires. "(Sigmund Freud)
"God and 'the only being that, to reign, does not even need to exist." (Charles Baudelaire)
"If I have to be punished for subordinate faith to reason, then I am ready." (Voltaire)
"We must have sum hurry to baptize children, 'cause they in their tender age' are exposed to many dangers of death, and can not be saved without baptism. "(blatant statements from the Catechism of St Pius X)
" There exists in the world attitude of most 'childish and more' foolish of those who delude themselves have explained the order of the universe only by assuming the existence of a creator whose wisdom and whose order is not able to explain in any way. "(Unknown)
" One last favor, and if 'possible: when I die', spare me the funeral at church and the priest's speech, I could not defend myself ... "(John Soriano)
" Many people do not talk about God, nor the curse, if so people did not everything to give him one. "(Jean Meslier)
Faith and 'what to believe' that you know is not 'so'." (Mark Twain)
"At the same time God wants to abolish evil, and can not ', or he can 'but do not want to do it, or he can not', and do not want to do it, If you like, but can not, 'and then' helpless. If you can, 'but does not want to do it, and' evil. But if God can 'and wants to eliminate evil, then why' there is still evil in the world? "(Epicurus)
" The religious beliefs of people of every country are ancient and enduring relics of ignorance, cruelty ' , and the terrors of the ferocity of their ancestors. "(Paul Thiry d'Holbach)
" You do not become atheists to adopt new beliefs, but per diventare liberi." (Mathieu Delarue)
"Dio: una spiegazione che risparmia una spiegazione." (Leonard L. Levinson)
"Non c'e' in fondo che una definizione valida: l'ateo e' un credente divenuto adulto." (Thomas Cleaners jr.)
"La Chiesa dice che la Terra e' piatta, ma io so che e' rotonda, perche' ne ho visto l'ombra sulla Luna, ed ho piu' fiducia in un'ombra che nella Chiesa." (Ferdinando Magellano)
"Iscriveresti tuo figlio ad un'organizzazione che non ti piace, in un'eta' in cui ancora non sai se a lui interessa o no? E allora perche' lo hai battezzato?" (Ignoto)
"Il Papa: uomo a capo di una monarchia assoluta distintasi nei secoli per la sua barbarie." (Ignoto)
"[...] chiunque accettera' di consultare il buon senso sulle credenze religiose [...] si accorgera' facilmente che tali credenze non hanno alcun solido fondamento; che ogni religione e' un castello in aria; che la teologia non e' che l'ignoranza delle cause naturali ridotta a sistema [...]" (Paul Thiry d'Holbach, il buon senso)
"Se la religione fosse chiara, avrebbe molto meno attrattiva per gli ignoranti. Essi hanno bisogno di oscurita', di misteri, di terrori, di favole, di prodigi, di cose incredibili che li facciano sempre lavorare di fantasia." (Paul Thiry d'Holbach)
"I teologi trattano gli uomini come fanciulli, che non fanno mai obiezioni sulla veridicita' dei racconti che ascoltano." (Paul Thiry d'Holbach)
"It would be difficult to train a man of forty years by providing the concepts that are inconsistent on these deities ', and equally difficult to dispel those notions as the head of a man who is imbued with the most' early childhood. " (Paul Thiry d'Holbach)
"[...] because atheists need the evidence and protection of those on whom would be likely to atheism. If there are atheists, what 'proof only that the evidence of God is not worth anything. " (Felix Le Dantec)
"If ignorance of nature gave birth to the gods, his knowledge will destroy them '." (Paul Thiry d'Holbach)
"One thing I have always been deeply impressed: that believers of all time have sought and provided evidence of the existence of God, of course, all these tests are conclusive for those who use them. Unfortunately these are only for them, prove that they believe in God, and everything and 'them'. "(Felix Le Dantec)
" The majority of Italians, while not professing and not respecting any commandment, it is believed that the religious and thinks Pope is a good little man. "(Unknown)
" What more 'I was indignant of the Bible and' the audacity in stating that use things more 'absurd in the belief that others are fools. "(Luigi Cascioli)
"[...] the three sons of Noah, 'hailed the old parent, they left each with its own female taking directions different, as did the animals to repopulate the earth. Give yourself one each sector, based on pairs practicing incest and crap like that inevitable [...]" (Luigi Cascioli)
"One of the really negative effects of religion and 'that is taught to consider a virtue' the Pasha's own ignorance. "(Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion)
" God does not exist, people have no choice but to take hold of their destiny through the social and political conditions that surround them. "(JPSartre)
" Without religion good men Would still do good things and bad men Would still do bad things. For good men to do really bad things Requires religion. "(Steven Weinberg)
" If I fight le religioni non e' perche' esse sostengono l'idea di un Dio inesistente, ma perche' esse fondano su questa chimera una morale basata sulla stagnazione e sul regresso." (Luigi Cascioli)
"Se la famiglia e' cosi' importante, cosi' nobile, perche' i preti non si sposano? E se sono cosi' competenti in materia come avranno fatto a fare esperienza?"
Dedicato a tutti quelli che continuano a chiamare il papa "santo padre": - E non chiamate nessuno "padre" sulla terra, perché uno solo è il Padre vostro, quello del cielo. - (Marco 23,9)
Friday, February 24, 2006
Pinnacle 150e 55e Sur Mac
it.cultura.ateismo and reproduced in full.
In questo messaggio
* illustro because the campaign for the removal of crucifixes from public places is psychologically wrong;
* propose an alternative campaign: an alternative way to solve the same problem without removing the crucifix;
* shows that this alternative would be even better but not worse removal of the crucifix.
* explains why this alternative would have many more chances of success.
atheists We must strive to understand that if someone is a believer, he deeply loves the crucifix. There is attached. When you hear that someone wants to remove from any place, taking him in the psychological mechanisms EMOTIONAL, resentment, blocking the rational component. Then he appiglierà to pseudo-rational arguments, with false excuses, such as "The cross is part of our culture" or the recent "The crucifix is \u200b\u200ba symbol of secularism." And will do so in good faith, believe that.
All these arguments are false in fact the product of emotion. The reaction, though regrettable, it is normal to a certain point of view: "You come and tell me to remove a symbol that has always existed, and that I love so much? But go to that country. If you do not like you pretend that there is, and do not bother. ". It is normal. That's understandable. It is human. The brain is sufficient to note the pattern "I love X" + "Y è nemico di X", per suscitare sentimento di ostilità, che BLOCCA la ragione e spinge all'uso della "forza": essi sfrutteranno la loro superiorità numerica per diffondere le pseudo-giustificazioni di cui sopra, ed averla così vinta. Ma attenzione: la loro non è viltà. Essi non si rendono neppure conto che tali giustificazioni sono ridicole: ci credono veramente. Sinceramente. Gli uomini sono capaci di autoconvincersi di cose illogiche quando fanno loro comodo. Hanno una componente irrazionale che blocca la razionalità. L'uomo si comporta così per motivi evolutivi. Anzi, evolutivamente parlando sarebbe sorprendente se gli uomini non si comportassero così. Specialmente i credenti (senza offesa) hanno questa tendenza to autoconvincersi.
Fortunately for us atheists need not be required to remove the crucifix. Let us ask ourselves: what we really want us atheists? We want to be free from discrimination. We want to be equated by the State. We want to have equal status in the sense of recognition of the state. We want, if it was explicitly recognized religious freedom, should also explicitly recognize the freedom of not being religious. This we want. But if we want this, it is not necessary to remove the crucifix. There is also a second way: HANG IN ADDITION TO THE CROSS SYMBOL TA. Does not detract from the following: to add something.
In principle it is obvious: to solve discrimination, there are two ways you can remove all signs, but you can also put ALL. Because no one has ever seriously considered the latter?
I think this second option key advantages:
1. In this way, lest the emotions of the believers, why not ask them to remove anything. We just want to add our icon to not be discriminated against. We restrict therefore very emotional reaction which blocks the right. This reduces social conflicts and increases the likelihood of success of our campaign.
2. Even in some of them continue (this time unfairly) to oppose, they would be deprived of their most Strong argument: "The crucifix should not be removed because it's cultural heritage." In fact, we would reply simply: "Nobody asked to remove it. We just want to add another one because the state can not discriminate one culture over another."
is why I believe that the request would have added much more likely to succeed than the removal request.
3. Now you might think that this is for us a "make do". Quite the contrary: this would be even better for us the removal of the crucifix, because it is more explicit. Add a symbol means EXPRESSLY legitimize a group of people or ideas. Instead, remove a symbol è solo IMPLICITAMENTE una legittimazione.
Immaginate il bambino che va a scuola e vede aggiungere un nuovo simbolo alla parete, accanto al crocifisso. Un simbolo sconosciuto. Il bambino chiede che cos'è, e gli rispondono: "Il simbolo dell'ateismo". Allora il bambino si rende conto che la posizione atea è perfettamente legittima, non una cosa di cui vergognarsi. TUTTO QUESTO NON SUCCEDEREBBE CON LA SEMPLICE RIMOZIONE DEL CROCIFISSO.
Insomma, l'aggiunta di un simbolo dell'ateismo darebbe alla cultura atea una legittimazione ancora maggiore dell'abolizione del crocifisso. 
In questo messaggio
* illustro because the campaign for the removal of crucifixes from public places is psychologically wrong;
* propose an alternative campaign: an alternative way to solve the same problem without removing the crucifix;
* shows that this alternative would be even better but not worse removal of the crucifix.
* explains why this alternative would have many more chances of success.
atheists We must strive to understand that if someone is a believer, he deeply loves the crucifix. There is attached. When you hear that someone wants to remove from any place, taking him in the psychological mechanisms EMOTIONAL, resentment, blocking the rational component. Then he appiglierà to pseudo-rational arguments, with false excuses, such as "The cross is part of our culture" or the recent "The crucifix is \u200b\u200ba symbol of secularism." And will do so in good faith, believe that.
All these arguments are false in fact the product of emotion. The reaction, though regrettable, it is normal to a certain point of view: "You come and tell me to remove a symbol that has always existed, and that I love so much? But go to that country. If you do not like you pretend that there is, and do not bother. ". It is normal. That's understandable. It is human. The brain is sufficient to note the pattern "I love X" + "Y è nemico di X", per suscitare sentimento di ostilità, che BLOCCA la ragione e spinge all'uso della "forza": essi sfrutteranno la loro superiorità numerica per diffondere le pseudo-giustificazioni di cui sopra, ed averla così vinta. Ma attenzione: la loro non è viltà. Essi non si rendono neppure conto che tali giustificazioni sono ridicole: ci credono veramente. Sinceramente. Gli uomini sono capaci di autoconvincersi di cose illogiche quando fanno loro comodo. Hanno una componente irrazionale che blocca la razionalità. L'uomo si comporta così per motivi evolutivi. Anzi, evolutivamente parlando sarebbe sorprendente se gli uomini non si comportassero così. Specialmente i credenti (senza offesa) hanno questa tendenza to autoconvincersi.
Fortunately for us atheists need not be required to remove the crucifix. Let us ask ourselves: what we really want us atheists? We want to be free from discrimination. We want to be equated by the State. We want to have equal status in the sense of recognition of the state. We want, if it was explicitly recognized religious freedom, should also explicitly recognize the freedom of not being religious. This we want. But if we want this, it is not necessary to remove the crucifix. There is also a second way: HANG IN ADDITION TO THE CROSS SYMBOL TA. Does not detract from the following: to add something.
In principle it is obvious: to solve discrimination, there are two ways you can remove all signs, but you can also put ALL. Because no one has ever seriously considered the latter?
I think this second option key advantages:
1. In this way, lest the emotions of the believers, why not ask them to remove anything. We just want to add our icon to not be discriminated against. We restrict therefore very emotional reaction which blocks the right. This reduces social conflicts and increases the likelihood of success of our campaign.
2. Even in some of them continue (this time unfairly) to oppose, they would be deprived of their most Strong argument: "The crucifix should not be removed because it's cultural heritage." In fact, we would reply simply: "Nobody asked to remove it. We just want to add another one because the state can not discriminate one culture over another."
is why I believe that the request would have added much more likely to succeed than the removal request.
3. Now you might think that this is for us a "make do". Quite the contrary: this would be even better for us the removal of the crucifix, because it is more explicit. Add a symbol means EXPRESSLY legitimize a group of people or ideas. Instead, remove a symbol è solo IMPLICITAMENTE una legittimazione.
Immaginate il bambino che va a scuola e vede aggiungere un nuovo simbolo alla parete, accanto al crocifisso. Un simbolo sconosciuto. Il bambino chiede che cos'è, e gli rispondono: "Il simbolo dell'ateismo". Allora il bambino si rende conto che la posizione atea è perfettamente legittima, non una cosa di cui vergognarsi. TUTTO QUESTO NON SUCCEDEREBBE CON LA SEMPLICE RIMOZIONE DEL CROCIFISSO.
Insomma, l'aggiunta di un simbolo dell'ateismo darebbe alla cultura atea una legittimazione ancora maggiore dell'abolizione del crocifisso.
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